Noctuoid moths (except Arctiinae)
This moth sub-category for the superfamily Noctuoidea contains the large families Noctuidae and Erebidae as well the smaller Euteliidae, Nolidae, Notodontidae and Oenosandridae. The Arctiinae also belong to this superfamily, but are distinctive and well known so are given their own moth sub-category
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donhe
wrote:
6 hrs ago
That sounds consistent with the P. formosalis being strictly from Asia, and P. being strictly from Oz, although they are superficially similar ?
Phytometra laevis
PJH123
wrote:
Yesterday
Don, they are close, all of the Phytometra laevis (65) fit into the one BIN ID: BOLD:AAB1918. A group of 25 range in difference from 0.08% to 0.36%. meanwhile Phytometra formosalis (17) fits into 2 bins BIN ID: BOLD:ACF4053 and BIN ID: BOLD:AAB1918 indicating that some of the formosalis (BOLD:AAB1918) are in fact laevis. Of the ones I tested, 2 sets, one from each bin the difference is 1.37% -1.82% very close, but what makes a species? (we are 2% different to a Chimpanzee). My knowledge of DNA is next to nil and I can only compare the available figures.
Of the formosalis, ANICI254-10 and ANICI255-10 belong to laevis BIN ID: BOLD:AAB1918, while the rest are in BIN ID: BOLD:ACF4053
Of the formosalis, ANICI254-10 and ANICI255-10 belong to laevis BIN ID: BOLD:AAB1918, while the rest are in BIN ID: BOLD:ACF4053
Phytometra laevis
donhe
wrote:
Yesterday
Peter: can you tell from BOLD that they are different species ? Or could specimens from Oz be a different species from those from rest of S.E. Asia ?
Phytometra laevis
PJH123
wrote:
Yesterday
It is only that I went looking to see if someone noted a difference
Phytometra laevis
WendyEM
wrote:
Yesterday
Thanks. That will teach me for not being thorough enough ! I've had to look for hairy eyes before (= Hadeninae) but not eye colour, 'though the green eyes do catch my eye. thanks again
Phytometra laevis
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